Comments for America's Wild Horses - Wild Horses in Winds of Change Film http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com Wild Horse Rescue Tue, 15 May 2012 14:53:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on A Ranchers response to cattle grazing on the range by Mara LeGrand: Filmmaker http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/2011/06/a-ranchers-response-to-cattle-grazing-on-the-range/comment-page-1/#comment-1945 Mara LeGrand: Filmmaker Tue, 15 May 2012 14:53:57 +0000 http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/?p=664#comment-1945 Jonathan Ratner of Western Watersheds is among the few from environmental groups who has been willing to associate himself with wild horse advocates and specifically this film. Although his main objective is to work toward a sustainable range for all wild life and habitat, his studies on the range, has allowed him to observe the big difference in wild horses and cattle on the range. He spends at least 110 nights per year camping on ranges, doing field studies, gathering data and assessing damage to watersheds, nearly entirely done by cattle. There are few environmental groups on the side of the wild horse and a few that are, I worry will turn their back on the horses as soon as their personal agenda of getting cattle off the range is met. What is critical to wild horse management and acceptance is that they are acknowledged as wild animals with indigenous rights to the land. Remains of their ancestors ( Equus Cabbilous) have been found dating back further than homo - sapiens. Environmentalists groups/individuals tend to wrap around one issue - like prairie dogs or sage grouse, which in my opinion is as short sited as the cattle people. In order to have a sustainable future for habitat, water and all wild creatures we have to consider the whole system and reduce human ( private gain) as much as possible. Jonathan Ratner of Western Watersheds is among the few from environmental groups who has been willing to associate himself with wild horse advocates and specifically this film. Although his main objective is to work toward a sustainable range for all wild life and habitat, his studies on the range, has allowed him to observe the big difference in wild horses and cattle on the range. He spends at least 110 nights per year camping on ranges, doing field studies, gathering data and assessing damage to watersheds, nearly entirely done by cattle. There are few environmental groups on the side of the wild horse and a few that are, I worry will turn their back on the horses as soon as their personal agenda of getting cattle off the range is met. What is critical to wild horse management and acceptance is that they are acknowledged as wild animals with indigenous rights to the land. Remains of their ancestors ( Equus Cabbilous) have been found dating back further than homo – sapiens. Environmentalists groups/individuals tend to wrap around one issue – like prairie dogs or sage grouse, which in my opinion is as short sited as the cattle people. In order to have a sustainable future for habitat, water and all wild creatures we have to consider the whole system and reduce human ( private gain) as much as possible.

]]> Comment on A Ranchers response to cattle grazing on the range by Mara LeGrand: Filmmaker http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/2011/06/a-ranchers-response-to-cattle-grazing-on-the-range/comment-page-1/#comment-1944 Mara LeGrand: Filmmaker Tue, 15 May 2012 14:38:42 +0000 http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/?p=664#comment-1944 One of the problems that exist is that although horses and cattle get along - the range cannot support both of them. Other habitat matters as well and the impact of 12 million plus cattle has had a damaging effect on range resources. As long as cattle and horses are on the same ranges, wild horses are scape goated for all the problems hoofed animals may cause to riparian areas and with over-grazing issues. Cattle are domestic, they camp at water holes, only graze on grasses and they are heavy of hoof and survival in the wild is not what they are wired for. They would be happier and plumper grazing on lush green pastures on private land. Wild horses are truly wild, with an ancient genetic code that helps them adapt and survive through seasons of change. They take turns at water holes and they only go for a drink a couple times a day for a drink and in hot weather may take a cool off splash. As long as people lump cattle with wild horses, the wild horses will be in peril. One is clearly private, domestic livestock and the other is a wild animal who belongs to the American public. One of the problems that exist is that although horses and cattle get along – the range cannot support both of them. Other habitat matters as well and the impact of 12 million plus cattle has had a damaging effect on range resources. As long as cattle and horses are on the same ranges, wild horses are scape goated for all the problems hoofed animals may cause to riparian areas and with over-grazing issues. Cattle are domestic, they camp at water holes, only graze on grasses and they are heavy of hoof and survival in the wild is not what they are wired for. They would be happier and plumper grazing on lush green pastures on private land. Wild horses are truly wild, with an ancient genetic code that helps them adapt and survive through seasons of change. They take turns at water holes and they only go for a drink a couple times a day for a drink and in hot weather may take a cool off splash. As long as people lump cattle with wild horses, the wild horses will be in peril. One is clearly private, domestic livestock and the other is a wild animal who belongs to the American public.

]]> Comment on A Ranchers response to cattle grazing on the range by Mara LeGrand: Filmmaker http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/2011/06/a-ranchers-response-to-cattle-grazing-on-the-range/comment-page-1/#comment-1943 Mara LeGrand: Filmmaker Tue, 15 May 2012 14:31:12 +0000 http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/?p=664#comment-1943 Ranchers have an entitlement attitude about use of public lands. Just because they used it in the past, doesn't mean they should still be able to. BLM panders to cattleman because their agency was essentially established to manage cows and range-land. They have become a rogue agency who does what they want. Even when they get caught red-handed breaking laws, they are like adolescent boys who just go out and do what they want to again. Ranchers have an entitlement attitude about use of public lands. Just because they used it in the past, doesn’t mean they should still be able to. BLM panders to cattleman because their agency was essentially established to manage cows and range-land. They have become a rogue agency who does what they want. Even when they get caught red-handed breaking laws, they are like adolescent boys who just go out and do what they want to again.

]]> Comment on A Ranchers response to cattle grazing on the range by Mara LeGrand: Filmmaker http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/2011/06/a-ranchers-response-to-cattle-grazing-on-the-range/comment-page-1/#comment-1942 Mara LeGrand: Filmmaker Tue, 15 May 2012 14:08:44 +0000 http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/?p=664#comment-1942 Yes humans are the greatest consumers of all resources and as populations increase, sustainability of habitat for humans and animals will be more challenging. I live in the South West where the ancient pueblo population was wiped out due to an imbalance of people vs. resources. And that was before the"grid". With regard to wild horses there are currently enough resources for healthy horse populations on public land. These resources will last longer if cattle are removed from the range and even then, over-site, study and some forms of management of the herd populations will be needed. Not all ranges are equal in regard to habitat, herd reproduction or long seated politics, like who owns the water rights, so each range and herd needs continual study to understand how to keep the entire eco-system, including wild horses sustainable. An important fix that can lead to long term benefits for all wild life is to remove the beef source whose owners grow fat on public lands. This particular beef source is mostly sold to foreign markets. So, we're growing beef on our public land for private industry to profit in other countries, and in doing so we are depleting resources for all of us, including our wild life. Like everything in life, we need to consider the implications of our personal impact on the planet as we also find fixable solutions for immediate issues. Yes humans are the greatest consumers of all resources and as populations increase, sustainability of habitat for humans and animals will be more challenging. I live in the South West where the ancient pueblo population was wiped out due to an imbalance of people vs. resources. And that was before the”grid”. With regard to wild horses there are currently enough resources for healthy horse populations on public land. These resources will last longer if cattle are removed from the range and even then, over-site, study and some forms of management of the herd populations will be needed. Not all ranges are equal in regard to habitat, herd reproduction or long seated politics, like who owns the water rights, so each range and herd needs continual study to understand how to keep the entire eco-system, including wild horses sustainable. An important fix that can lead to long term benefits for all wild life is to remove the beef source whose owners grow fat on public lands. This particular beef source is mostly sold to foreign markets. So, we’re growing beef on our public land for private industry to profit in other countries, and in doing so we are depleting resources for all of us, including our wild life. Like everything in life, we need to consider the implications of our personal impact on the planet as we also find fixable solutions for immediate issues.

]]> Comment on A Ranchers response to cattle grazing on the range by Kerry http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/2011/06/a-ranchers-response-to-cattle-grazing-on-the-range/comment-page-1/#comment-1941 Kerry Tue, 15 May 2012 13:44:21 +0000 http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/?p=664#comment-1941 Here is the ugly truth as I see it. And it is not meant to be hateful. But all of the problems everywhere, including this issue of wild horses vs. cattlemen, can be traced to human overpopulation. We have DOUBLED the world population in 50 years from 3 billion to 6 billion. Now, there are only 310 or so million in the US. But, 150 years ago the mortality rate was much higher due to accidents and illness of both young and old. It was necessary for families to have lots of children in order for the species to survive (some families would have 10 children and only 3 survive to adulthood). With modern technology we have created safer work enviorments, and medicine has save millions of children from illeness and older people live longer, healthier lives. All of this adds up to more people on the planet using more resources - more than our intended share. I'm all for happy families, but if we truly want to be stewards of this planet, we should start by lessening our footprint by doing our part to lessen the number of people on the range. Here is the ugly truth as I see it. And it is not meant to be hateful. But all of the problems everywhere, including this issue of wild horses vs. cattlemen, can be traced to human overpopulation. We have DOUBLED the world population in 50 years from 3 billion to 6 billion. Now, there are only 310 or so million in the US. But, 150 years ago the mortality rate was much higher due to accidents and illness of both young and old. It was necessary for families to have lots of children in order for the species to survive (some families would have 10 children and only 3 survive to adulthood). With modern technology we have created safer work enviorments, and medicine has save millions of children from illeness and older people live longer, healthier lives. All of this adds up to more people on the planet using more resources – more than our intended share. I’m all for happy families, but if we truly want to be stewards of this planet, we should start by lessening our footprint by doing our part to lessen the number of people on the range.

]]> Comment on Are Wild Horses Native or Feral Weeds? by C. Michelle Carpenter Mitchell http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/2011/03/are-wild-horses-native-or-feral-weeds/comment-page-1/#comment-1883 C. Michelle Carpenter Mitchell Fri, 04 May 2012 03:05:02 +0000 http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/?p=446#comment-1883 Dear wild horses, I think that we should have free land for the horses and as we the people. Should also have free land and stop killing the wild horses and let them roam free in the mountains and the wood forest areas. Quit having so much control and Power by killing them what if that was you that they were going to eat and make glue out of you're skin or hair or nose face or tongue, legs and tail. I think we should have free water and free peace of mind and stop the government from killing our wild life and free USA wild horses thank god !!!!! Dear wild horses,

I think that we should have free land for the horses and as we the people. Should also have free land and stop killing the wild horses and let them roam free in the mountains and the wood forest areas. Quit having so much control and Power by killing them what if that was you that they were going to eat and make glue out of you’re skin or hair or nose face or tongue, legs and tail. I think we should have free water and free peace of mind and stop the government from killing our wild life and free USA wild horses thank god !!!!!

]]> Comment on SUPPORT THIS FILM by Ann Turner http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/2012/03/support-this-film/comment-page-1/#comment-1717 Ann Turner Mon, 09 Apr 2012 03:43:36 +0000 http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/?p=1180#comment-1717 I think we have so much in common in raising awareness of the plight of our horses in so many ways, my speciality is that I want to change things in the competitive dressage and jumping world by changing the training and the way the horses are kept and fed. Keep up the good work, I put your moving on my facebook page! cheers, Ann. I think we have so much in common in raising awareness of the plight of our horses in so many ways, my speciality is that I want to change things in the competitive dressage and jumping world by changing the training and the way the horses are kept and fed. Keep up the good work, I put your moving on my facebook page! cheers, Ann.

]]> Comment on Wild or Feral in the Eye of the Beholder by Joanne http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/2011/05/wild-or-feral-in-the-eye-of-the-beholder/comment-page-1/#comment-1677 Joanne Tue, 03 Apr 2012 16:22:47 +0000 http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/?p=519#comment-1677 I would like to use this site as a link in a national educational campaign called Save Americas wild horses - targeted at all of america's classrooms. This PDF based lesson set will be ready in a few months for teachers across the US to use in their classes. Your information is vital to native vs. feral in the Power Point presentation that will be on the web site under construction. I am as a courtesy just writng ot let you know I want to include this site here as a study source. Thank you! I would like to use this site as a link in a national educational campaign called Save Americas wild horses – targeted at all of america’s classrooms. This PDF based lesson set will be ready in a few months for teachers across the US to use in their classes. Your information is vital to native vs. feral in the Power Point presentation that will be on the web site under construction. I am as a courtesy just writng ot let you know I want to include this site here as a study source. Thank you!

]]> Comment on Wild Horses in Winds of Change Film by Doris Conkey http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/comment-page-1/#comment-1658 Doris Conkey Sun, 01 Apr 2012 20:49:42 +0000 http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/?page_id=71#comment-1658 My husband and I viewed the DVD that I checked out at the library where I work. We were so impressed and understand that there is a ranch in Tuscon Az where we will be visiting the first week in September of this year. If possible we would like to visit the ranch with our daugther and her family. Can you give me some info on this? Thanks, Doris Conkey 8187 Bowers Rd SW Amanda, Ohio 43102-9567 tdconkey@frontier.com My husband and I viewed the DVD that I checked out at the library where I work. We were so impressed and understand that there is a ranch in Tuscon Az where we will be visiting the first week in September of this year. If possible we would like to visit the ranch with our daugther and her family. Can you give me some info on this?
Thanks,
Doris Conkey
8187 Bowers Rd SW
Amanda, Ohio 43102-9567
tdconkey@frontier.com

]]> Comment on Wild Horses in Winds of Change Film by Name Ellen Maggs http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/comment-page-1/#comment-1541 Name Ellen Maggs Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:59:54 +0000 http://wildhorsesinwindsofchange.com/?page_id=71#comment-1541 Just saw your film today. So touching. Would love to be involved. Ellen Maggs Just saw your film today. So touching. Would love to be involved. Ellen Maggs

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